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Award-winning ISP?

Avatar Eric Jervis
Over the years I've seen many favourable mentions of Plusnet on this forum, so I thought you chaps might be interested in my recent experiences with them:

Managing Director
Plusnet
The Balance
2 Pinfold Street
Sheffield
S1 2GU

16th January 2013

Sirs,

I rang you yesterday the 15th of January 2013 and requested a MAC number at 1448 hours.
I was asked to wait for two and a half minutes so that a person from another so-called team could give it to me.

After three minutes I hung up as I vaguely remembered having this trouble with you some time ago, and I had no intention of waiting indefinitely while the person made and drank a cup of tea.

I rang again at 1500 hours and got a different automated message, with no possibility of speaking to a human being.

I rang again at 1855 hours and was told by a machine that there would be a fifteen minute wait to speak to a person.

At 1857 hours I was told by a machine that the office was closed for the day.

I rang again today at 1147 hours and was told I would have to wait fifteen minutes.

I congratulate you on building a computer program that can recognise the phone numbers of irate customers and prevent them from ever talking to you but I have already cancelled your direct debit so all you can do is piss me off a bit more.

If you don't send me a MAC number by email very soon I shall forward a copy of this letter to my local newspaper and also to Private Eye, together with an explanation, so everyone may know what a bunch of crooks you are.

Eric Jervis

I rang them today (the 21st) at 1140 hrs (in a cold fury) and pressed one of the two available options on their automated system, to hear the following message in a comedy Yorkshire accent, "We're sorry for making you wait; all our advisers are currently busy. (What, both of them?) Please have your username and password ready for our security checks, and we'll answer as soon as we can".
This message was repeated ad infinitum until I spoke to Scott at 1156 hrs. At 1158 hrs dear Scott put me through to their Customer Options Team, as he (Scott) allegedly did not have access to MAC numbers. This particular Team played me pop music until a female voice answered me at 1207 hrs. Guess what? She allegedly did not have access to MAC numbers either, as she said she would order one for me which I might retrieve from the User Centre after twenty four hours. Reading from her script, she asked me why I wanted to leave my wonderful Service Provider, and acted deeply shocked at what had happened to me on the 15th, alleging that they were awfully busy and I shouldn't have had to wait longer than three minutes ha ha. When I told her that my present call had so far lasted thirty one minutes she acted even more shocked and bade me a hasty goodbye.

I'll keep you posted.

Re: Award-winning ISP?

Avatar Mick Burrell
Eric, you don't say why you wanted a MAC code. Was their broadband constantly dropping to give you a poor service? Did they supply a free router and if so was this letting you down? I ask as the frustration you vent above is purely at their customer service so I wondered if their broadband service was poor.

I have not kept accurate time records as you have but I have two accounts with Plus Net and whilst their broadband has never dropped on either account I had reason to contact customer service recently about one as my speed was not all it should have been. I got through to a technical help person by phone in a very acceptable time and having explained the issue, received updates by email and text to explain tests that were being carried out. I reported back by email (having checked my speed and found it had not improved) and the updates from Plus Net continued until the fault was traced to the BT exchange and rectified.

We tend to judge companies more on how well they perform when things do not go to plan rather than take into account all the things (if any!) they do get right. I don't have shares in Plus Net and have no reason to praise them other than to point out to you - as you thought we may be interested in your experience - that for some of us, their service could not be more different.

Re: Award-winning ISP?

Avatar Eric Jervis
Hallo Mick, my broadband speed is now so slow that I'm unable to stream anything on YouTube (The Ukulele Orchestra - You Don't Bring Me Flowers in particular). I blame my router, and though I may well be wrong, I found Plusnet's behaviour inexcusable. All communication with them is difficult unless you want an answer to an FAQ. Call me old fashioned if you will but I like to talk to a human being as machines can't give you an answer to a question that's not been programmed into them. I don't doubt that your experience with them has been a good one, but you just try asking them for a MAC number! Keeping people hanging around on hold is a scam, just taking the mick, if you'll pardon the expression. And I'm absolutely certain that their computerised phone system knows very well when an irate customer is on the line and that it is programmed to give them a bit of aggravation, just for the hell of it. PHEW.

Re: Award-winning ISP?

Avatar Eric Jervis
They've sent me a MAC key at 1604 hrs, and grovelled a bit. Not enough though, I'm off to BT. I know very well that if I get rouble with them I'll be speaking to someone who talks English about as well as a parrot, but I'll give it a go anyway.

Re: Award-winning ISP?

Avatar Lionel Ogden
Sorry to hear of your sad experience with plusnet. My recent experience of their customer help desk went as follows. My internet connection had failed ( for the second time in eight years). So I rang the help desk which connected in about five minutes. I told them the problem which they identified as one of their servers having a problem so they switched me to another server, asked me to wait for a few minutes for the connections to re-establish and all has been well ever since.

At least Plusnet's help desk is in Sheffield not Bangalore.

Have you had a look at my notes on improving your broadband above? There are a few things that can affect your connection speed as well as the ISP.

Re: Award-winning ISP?

Avatar Derek Wright
A good place to vent at PLusnet is the Plusnet Forum at
Thinkbroadband

and /or

PLusnet Community web site


both of these forums are closely monitored by Plusnet employees who have quite a bit of clout in getting things sorted.

I had an outage a couple of weeks ago, the Plusnet tech support guided me through some useful tests including connecting the computer directly to the BT FTTC modem to show that the connection was working.
I then reconnected with the SamKnows white box disconnected and the connection still failed, so then connected up a new router which worked OK, then connected the Whitebox.

The tech support guy was good he knew how to connect the Mac direct to the modem and the correct connection settings.

I did receive an email from them informing of reduced staffing due to bad weather in their neighbourhood and consequential delays in answering the phone.

Re: Award-winning ISP?

Avatar Eric Jervis
Thank you for your input gentlemen, and particularly for your phone call Mick. My new number at the shop will be 07761 [undisclosed telephone], and I would of course ring you back on the land line when I got home.

Re: Award-winning ISP?

Avatar David Fleetwood
I believe I am right in saying that BT own PlusNet so there is no escape from their clutches! One of my concerns when BT took it over, was the effect it might have on the level of service but generally speaking, I have been happy with PlusNet and they still rate quite highly, for a large ISP, in the Which? reports on broadband providers - certainly higher than BT. One man's meat is another man's poison as they say!

Re: Award-winning ISP?

Avatar Thomas Maude
just to add this into the mix ...Ive been with these guys for over 10 years now ..not the cheapest around but definitely the best support. I suppose in the great scheme of things you pays your money and takes your choice.

http://support.macace.net/?page_id=60

Re: Award-winning ISP?

Avatar Eric Jervis
You've almost convinced me lads, and when I get fed up with BT perhaps I'll go back to them. I shall of course keep you apprised of any adverse experiences!

Re: Award-winning ISP?

Avatar Eric Jervis
It's arrived gentlemen, and so far all is superb. Very professional little booklet, written by someone who knows about grammar, a doddle to connect and set up, speed has improved, beautiful bit of kit, albeit made in China. So are Macs, I know, but I do object to giving these people the means to conquer us. Ah well, I should be dead by then!
 
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